Posts by Separation of Powers

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Designated elder to shadow talks at the meeting

by wannaexit in

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i heard that there is an elder in each congregation that follows very closely what is being said from stage to make sure everything is being said correctly.

in all my years as a jw , i don't ever remember this at the local level.

is this something new?

Separation of Powers

COBE, TMS and Chairman for Sunday is expected to ensure that the speaker is "holding fast to what is fine." This has always been the case.

SOP

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Do jws complain more than normal people?

by Julia Orwell in

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i'm a jw, and i have several bills to pay.

me: "oh my goodness, i have so many bills, it's ridiculous!

i have car rego, phone bill, electricity bill, rent...it's terrible!

Separation of Powers

It is nice to remind yourself how much your life sucks. It makes the expectation of paradise and continued sacrifice much more desirable.

SOP

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Jehovah made the deal fail so I could go where they needed me more

by NVR2L8 in

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a few weeks back i ran into an elder at a business meeting out of town.

i had seen him there before when i was a ms. this time i had a chance to tell him that my standing in the congregation had changed and that i was inactive.

he said that sometimes we need to take some time to reevaluate where we stand in the "truth".

Couldn't agree with you more! Why is it that people attribute their blessings to Jehovah when SOOO many people are left unblessed. It seems rather narcissistic to me. What about that single mother that is working at that menial job and trying to get by with food stamps? Jehovah's blessing?

Quick story:

Years ago there was a talk outline, I don't know if it still part of the canon of talks, but it once was. It was about "self-sacrifice." The brother who came and gave the talk at our hall was a really good speaker, used extensively in the circuit and district, very animated, really strong voice, engaging, everything you hope for on a Sunday morning running on a cup of coffee. He starts by talking about Jesus NOT having a place to lay his head. That Jesus sacrificed all he could ever have hoped to be for the sake of the good news....yadda, yadda, yadda. Anyway, while he's talking I notice that he has cufflinks and they sparkle really brightly. This causes me to examine his suit and tie a little more closely....tailored. I look over at his wife, facelift with designer dress and shoes. Her wedding ring? Can anybody say HOPE diamond?

All the while, he's talking about sacrifice and pioneering and what is stopping YOU? After it was over, I follow him outside (he left at halftime) and tell him that I appreciated him coming to our hall and all that. I ask him how long he'd been pioneering...he said he wasn't, but he really wanted to. We said our goodbyes and then he and his wife drove away in their Mercedes 500 class. B. E. A. Utiful car!

I guess Jehovah was really blessing him while that poor sister who had pioneered for years was just trying to get some help from the government so she didnt get evicted from her apartment.

There is simply NO reason to believe that God looks with favor on one person and not on the other.

It seems only those with more than they need would say that.

Just a thought,

SOP

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I suspect the WTS mut be feeling pretty good about their own internal security...

by sir82 in

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...since it evidently was not confirmed in advance that the agm was going to be exclusively about releasing the rnwt.. i mean, we all kinda sorta expected it, but no one had a "smoking gun", as it were, officially confirming it.. in contrast, there was the leak, posted on this forum, of the july 15 2013 watchtower, a week or 2 before its official posting on jw.org.. .

i'm sure the rnwt was a well-guarded secret - on the other hand, there has been a rnwt translation committee in existence for 5+ years.

absolutely no one in the "apostate community" even hinted at this committee's existence.

Separation of Powers

Translation Committee....who were they exactly? Credentials?

SOP

69

"The excitement is PALPABLE"

by Separation of Powers in

got caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years.

still respects me, not knowing that i am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing.

anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.. "hey sop, how are you doing?

Separation of Powers

@Stand for pure worship-

Please don't hijack a thread to stand up for YOUR ideals of Pure Worship. If you actually knew what your name implies, you would not be here. Unless, of course, you are simply a troll looking to incite a reaction. In any event, start your own thread and let the people speak to the point of the thread.

Oh, one other point, if debating non or exwitnesses on a website that you deem "apostate." is your notion of "pure" worship, then how can you say you are standing when in fact your conviction is crippled by your actions.

Just a thought,

SOP

69

"The excitement is PALPABLE"

by Separation of Powers in

got caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years.

still respects me, not knowing that i am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing.

anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.. "hey sop, how are you doing?

Separation of Powers

Got caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years. Still respects me, not knowing that I am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing. Anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.

"Hey SOP, how are you doing? It's SOOO good to see you!"

I exchange the pleasantry.

"What time are you going to the Annual Meeting event?"

"I didn't know it was an event, but anyway, I'm not gonna be able to make it."

"Oh, no," she replies. "That's a shame. I hope everything's OK. I mean, the EXCITEMENT IS PALPABLE! I am so excited I can hardly contain myself! It's like when Franz came back in the '70's. You can just feel that something is gonna happen!"

"Wow," I say, " kinda like when your left arm starts hurting right before a cardiac episode?" (sarcasm has always been strong with my family)

(That didn't go over well. )

"Well, I hope you can make it. It's gonna be great. I just know it is."

Any of you getting this kind of feedback?

SOP

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Is it VITAL that we recognize the faithful slave?

by Trevor Scott in

jw gonebad made this comment in another post:.

get a load of this audacious and brassy statement by the self-appointed fds in par 2 of todays lesson:.

it is vital that we recognize the faithful slave.

Separation of Powers

If the slave is ONLY the current GB and our life is dependent on working with that slave and recognizing that slave,

then I guess salvation for everyone who worked with the previous slave is up the creek cause they didn't know who that slave was.

Jesus said to the woman at the well, "We worship what we know..."

How does that equate to what the Watchtower has taught for decades?

SOP

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Does The Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses Do Any Charity Work?

by Bangalore in

does the organization of jehovah's witnesses do any charity work?.

answer from a wt apologist.

http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/05/does-organization-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

Separation of Powers

Oh, sorry, another point:

I recall the response of the commander in Angels and Demons (the movie)

"My church feeds the hungry, comforts the sick and dying. What does your church do?"

Great question for a Witness.

I usually hear the response about teaching someone to fish being better than giving them a fish.

yeah, a kid dying of AIDS or a family suffering from the ravages of Alzheimer's or Parkinson's really wants to learn how to fish!

SOP

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Does The Organization of Jehovah's Witnesses Do Any Charity Work?

by Bangalore in

does the organization of jehovah's witnesses do any charity work?.

answer from a wt apologist.

http://defendingjehovahswitnesses.blogspot.com/2013/05/does-organization-of-jehovahs-witnesses.html.

Separation of Powers

I am a firm believer in donating to charitable causes that concern me.

I recall once mentioning that to a brother who commented that I should be contributing that money to the organization.

He stated, "They do more than any charity is going to do! They provide the chance for eternal changes."

My comment: " I don't think someone with cancer cares about the eternal...they are just trying to make it till tomorrow."

Blank stare, mouth open.

SOP

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Is John Barr's funeral talk at odds with New Light?

by Splash in

john barr served in the gb and died in dec 2010 at the age of 97.. in his funeral talk and the accompanying eulogy tract that was printed, is the final sentence:.

"without a doubt, he slept for but a moment in death and has now received his heavenly reward and his father's approval - all he ever wanted!".

given that the new light about being approved and appointed over all things is now a future event linked to the gt trib, was it correct to teach these things about brother barr at his funeral service?.

Separation of Powers

Good catch Splash! (loved the movie)

One must understand that the slave, although used in a singular sense, is actually a composite group where decisions are made collectively. Therefore, the collective consciousness of the FDS, whether here on earth or in heaven during the "time of the end" serves as a singular entity, thereby singularly attaching their collective composite nature, forming, in essence, a new creation. This singular collective composition creates an understanding similar to the Trinity doctrine in that it is collectively, the singular most difficult composition to understand...evidently.

It is with this understanding that the Jack Barr position is perfectly acceptable as in line with current, somewhat muddled, dare I say opaque light.

SOP